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		<title>By: Miguel Labrador</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Labrador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Missionary in the Cloud Forest Region of Ecuador, I totally agree with your post and will be spending some time covering this exact issue with some very large groups in October and November when I return to the states for a short time.  

Well said, and well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Missionary in the Cloud Forest Region of Ecuador, I totally agree with your post and will be spending some time covering this exact issue with some very large groups in October and November when I return to the states for a short time.  </p>
<p>Well said, and well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acts 1:8 
As soon as we receive the Holy Spirit&#039;s empowerment to be a witnesse for Christ we are a missionary! Either in our Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, or another country! Please pray for our church as we are endeavoring to equip our entire church to be one of those types of missionaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acts 1:8<br />
As soon as we receive the Holy Spirit&#8217;s empowerment to be a witnesse for Christ we are a missionary! Either in our Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, or another country! Please pray for our church as we are endeavoring to equip our entire church to be one of those types of missionaries.</p>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/05/19/everyone-a-missionary/comment-page-1/#comment-7663</link>
		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
We can thank Christendom for the definition slide you refer to. When &quot;Christian&quot; is used as a synonym of &quot;American&quot; or &quot;moral&quot; (or, worse still, as an antonym of &quot;Muslim,&quot;) we need to find new ways to say the same thing. The thing is, culture defines the term for us. We can fight the battle of word definition, or we can start over with words that help us communicate in the present reality. That&#039;s why we have &quot;new&quot; words like &quot;emerging&quot; and &quot;missional&quot;- to communicate what a Christian- all Christians ought to be.

In this post, however, I&#039;m trying to go beyond reminding people that they are &quot;Christian Priests.&quot; I&#039;m talking about applying cross-cultural communication skills that have not typically been practiced by Christians (priests or otherwise). 

Christians should indeed be subversive. But subversive within a cultural you consider to be your own is very different than subversive within a culture that is foreign to you. I believe that the world has changed to such an extent that all Christians must begin to think like missionaries and put in the effort to influence people in cultures that, though they seem familiar, are not our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
We can thank Christendom for the definition slide you refer to. When &#8220;Christian&#8221; is used as a synonym of &#8220;American&#8221; or &#8220;moral&#8221; (or, worse still, as an antonym of &#8220;Muslim,&#8221;) we need to find new ways to say the same thing. The thing is, culture defines the term for us. We can fight the battle of word definition, or we can start over with words that help us communicate in the present reality. That&#8217;s why we have &#8220;new&#8221; words like &#8220;emerging&#8221; and &#8220;missional&#8221;- to communicate what a Christian- all Christians ought to be.</p>
<p>In this post, however, I&#8217;m trying to go beyond reminding people that they are &#8220;Christian Priests.&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about applying cross-cultural communication skills that have not typically been practiced by Christians (priests or otherwise). </p>
<p>Christians should indeed be subversive. But subversive within a cultural you consider to be your own is very different than subversive within a culture that is foreign to you. I believe that the world has changed to such an extent that all Christians must begin to think like missionaries and put in the effort to influence people in cultures that, though they seem familiar, are not our own.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Irwin</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/05/19/everyone-a-missionary/comment-page-1/#comment-7650</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without getting into the endless discussion over the meaning of &quot;missionary&quot; and &quot;missions&quot;, I find it discouraging that we find the need to apply this term which has historically been understood to represent those who have been sent out to leave home and culture to travel to other lands/cultures, and apply them to every believer.

I believe that we do so, only because we have diluted and lost the original, simple meaning of &quot;Christian&quot; and &quot;Priest&quot;.  When I hear someone say, &quot;We are all missionaries&quot;, I typically want to interrupt them and say no, you are a Christian Priest.  Once ANYONE becomes a Christian, they become subversive; their real purpose in life is to know Him and make Him known.  

Why then, for social conveniance, should we abduct a word/term so that it too will become diluted in time?  Why not just get back to basic instructions regarding what being a &quot;Christian&quot; means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without getting into the endless discussion over the meaning of &#8220;missionary&#8221; and &#8220;missions&#8221;, I find it discouraging that we find the need to apply this term which has historically been understood to represent those who have been sent out to leave home and culture to travel to other lands/cultures, and apply them to every believer.</p>
<p>I believe that we do so, only because we have diluted and lost the original, simple meaning of &#8220;Christian&#8221; and &#8220;Priest&#8221;.  When I hear someone say, &#8220;We are all missionaries&#8221;, I typically want to interrupt them and say no, you are a Christian Priest.  Once ANYONE becomes a Christian, they become subversive; their real purpose in life is to know Him and make Him known.  </p>
<p>Why then, for social conveniance, should we abduct a word/term so that it too will become diluted in time?  Why not just get back to basic instructions regarding what being a &#8220;Christian&#8221; means?</p>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/05/19/everyone-a-missionary/comment-page-1/#comment-5529</link>
		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton,
I guess my blog here is my attempt to work through some of the issues of translation from Modern to Postmodern Christianity. I&#039;m also part of a church that&#039;s working to do the same. I think we need to refocus on our individual contexts. So much of what we do is prescriptive (&quot;how to do church,&quot; &quot;how to share Christ,&quot; etc.), but ultimately, our cultural contexts can vary wildly one from another.  

Some good examples I&#039;ve seen are urban churches exploring things like hip-hop and the arts in worship. Rural churches doing more outside (they do everything else outside already). My church in the Pacific Northwest avoids lecture by keeping things conversational- there&#039;s still a preacher, but he&#039;s a very gifted discussion leader who preaches interactively. Most of this is just basic contextualization.

As for the Modernistic leanings of American Christianity- there are plenty of examples. Until the Enlightenment, Christians didn&#039;t talk about the faith &quot;making sense.&quot; Christians adapted to the prevailing worldview (as we should do) so that they could talk about God in a way that was appropriate.

Today, we use logic and reason in our apologetics (&quot;Lord, Liar, Lunatic,&quot; or &quot;The Way of the Master&quot; stuff), and a humanistic appeals to common morality (this goes beyond &quot;God&#039;s word is written on their hearts&quot; to an assumption that everyone who is in sin recognizes that to be  so- that non-believers are amoral.) These assumptions, and others, keep Christianity Modern. New believers are discipled into that Modernism. 

Again, I&#039;m not against Modern Christianity. I&#039;m just concerned that it&#039;s inappropriate for postmodern cultures, which are emerging everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton,<br />
I guess my blog here is my attempt to work through some of the issues of translation from Modern to Postmodern Christianity. I&#8217;m also part of a church that&#8217;s working to do the same. I think we need to refocus on our individual contexts. So much of what we do is prescriptive (&#8220;how to do church,&#8221; &#8220;how to share Christ,&#8221; etc.), but ultimately, our cultural contexts can vary wildly one from another.  </p>
<p>Some good examples I&#8217;ve seen are urban churches exploring things like hip-hop and the arts in worship. Rural churches doing more outside (they do everything else outside already). My church in the Pacific Northwest avoids lecture by keeping things conversational- there&#8217;s still a preacher, but he&#8217;s a very gifted discussion leader who preaches interactively. Most of this is just basic contextualization.</p>
<p>As for the Modernistic leanings of American Christianity- there are plenty of examples. Until the Enlightenment, Christians didn&#8217;t talk about the faith &#8220;making sense.&#8221; Christians adapted to the prevailing worldview (as we should do) so that they could talk about God in a way that was appropriate.</p>
<p>Today, we use logic and reason in our apologetics (&#8220;Lord, Liar, Lunatic,&#8221; or &#8220;The Way of the Master&#8221; stuff), and a humanistic appeals to common morality (this goes beyond &#8220;God&#8217;s word is written on their hearts&#8221; to an assumption that everyone who is in sin recognizes that to be  so- that non-believers are amoral.) These assumptions, and others, keep Christianity Modern. New believers are discipled into that Modernism. </p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not against Modern Christianity. I&#8217;m just concerned that it&#8217;s inappropriate for postmodern cultures, which are emerging everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/05/19/everyone-a-missionary/comment-page-1/#comment-5500</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernest,

Do you have any suggestions, ideas or things you have tried or seen being successful in the things you mentioned (conceptualizing systematized theology, corporate worship beyond singing, proclamation beyond lecture, teaching beyond the didactic, translating the gospel into the postmodern worldview)?

&quot;Our vocabulary, our epistemology, our apologetic, even our worship styles were formed by Modernistic thinkers and are therefore rooted in rationalism and humanism.&quot;
Can you give some examples of this and why they are rooted in rationalism and humanism? 

Thanks,

Clinton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernest,</p>
<p>Do you have any suggestions, ideas or things you have tried or seen being successful in the things you mentioned (conceptualizing systematized theology, corporate worship beyond singing, proclamation beyond lecture, teaching beyond the didactic, translating the gospel into the postmodern worldview)?</p>
<p>&#8220;Our vocabulary, our epistemology, our apologetic, even our worship styles were formed by Modernistic thinkers and are therefore rooted in rationalism and humanism.&#8221;<br />
Can you give some examples of this and why they are rooted in rationalism and humanism? </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Clinton</p>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/05/19/everyone-a-missionary/comment-page-1/#comment-5486</link>
		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 11:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Thanks for reading. I always appreciate the opportunity to try to clarify and explain what I write here.

My opinion is that Christianity, as we know and practice it (especially in the U.S.,) is thoroughly Modern. Our vocabulary, our epistemology, our apologetic, even our worship styles were formed by Modernistic thinkers and are therefore rooted in rationalism and humanism. We tend to focus on the individual, on the propositional, on the objective. I don&#039;t think this is bad, because it&#039;s still the Truth and because most Christians in the U.S. are modern. This expression of Christianity is appropriate for them. 

But for the growing percentage of Americans who are less modern- the &quot;postmodern&quot; if you will- conversion to the American version of Christianity also requires a &quot;conversion&quot; to Modernism. To be conversant in Christianity today, one must learn to think in terms of either/or. One must learn to conceptualize theology that has been systematized. There are few examples of corporate worship beyond singing. Most &quot;proclamation&quot; is through lecture. Most teaching is didactic. These things are not wrong, but they are not indigenous to Postmoderns. Just as missionaries must do the work of &quot;cultural translation&quot; of the gospel (contextualizing the communication of the Good News with language and cultural bridges), so must we allow for the translation of the gospel into the postmodern worldview. 

We&#039;re working through that (the &quot;emerging church&quot; may be an experiment in just that), but we&#039;re way behind the curve. The process of translation is tricky, though, as evidenced by heresies that are emerging along the way. 

I&#039;m not sure this makes any more sense than the original line, but thank you for asking. I&#039;d love to hear any thoughts you may have on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Thanks for reading. I always appreciate the opportunity to try to clarify and explain what I write here.</p>
<p>My opinion is that Christianity, as we know and practice it (especially in the U.S.,) is thoroughly Modern. Our vocabulary, our epistemology, our apologetic, even our worship styles were formed by Modernistic thinkers and are therefore rooted in rationalism and humanism. We tend to focus on the individual, on the propositional, on the objective. I don&#8217;t think this is bad, because it&#8217;s still the Truth and because most Christians in the U.S. are modern. This expression of Christianity is appropriate for them. </p>
<p>But for the growing percentage of Americans who are less modern- the &#8220;postmodern&#8221; if you will- conversion to the American version of Christianity also requires a &#8220;conversion&#8221; to Modernism. To be conversant in Christianity today, one must learn to think in terms of either/or. One must learn to conceptualize theology that has been systematized. There are few examples of corporate worship beyond singing. Most &#8220;proclamation&#8221; is through lecture. Most teaching is didactic. These things are not wrong, but they are not indigenous to Postmoderns. Just as missionaries must do the work of &#8220;cultural translation&#8221; of the gospel (contextualizing the communication of the Good News with language and cultural bridges), so must we allow for the translation of the gospel into the postmodern worldview. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re working through that (the &#8220;emerging church&#8221; may be an experiment in just that), but we&#8217;re way behind the curve. The process of translation is tricky, though, as evidenced by heresies that are emerging along the way. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure this makes any more sense than the original line, but thank you for asking. I&#8217;d love to hear any thoughts you may have on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: davidknuckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidknuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post! loved the &quot;momprenuer&quot; line!

what did you mean by this statement? can you elaborate?

      &quot;Not when there is yet to be an expression of Christianity that is truly free from modern              rational humanism.&quot;

many thanks...

david</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post! loved the &#8220;momprenuer&#8221; line!</p>
<p>what did you mean by this statement? can you elaborate?</p>
<p>      &#8220;Not when there is yet to be an expression of Christianity that is truly free from modern              rational humanism.&#8221;</p>
<p>many thanks&#8230;</p>
<p>david</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post.  I really enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post.  I really enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Grady Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grady Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 21:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think church leadership usually creates this problem.  If a person has a heart to reach the lost....they need to sign off on the BFM2000+, be trained, inspected, given a physical, checked for bankruptcies within the last seven years....and if all is well then.....a staff member needs to do it with them.  And it must be on campus...that&#039;s where Jesus lives!  And then if the person is really good at is, listens to the Gaithers and has a God&#039;s Gym t-shirt then we hire them on staff....taking yet another believer out of the real work-place and making an expert out of them.

More and more are saying enough of this and doing their own thing...outside of existing churches and denominations...it&#039;s easier to be missional there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think church leadership usually creates this problem.  If a person has a heart to reach the lost&#8230;.they need to sign off on the BFM2000+, be trained, inspected, given a physical, checked for bankruptcies within the last seven years&#8230;.and if all is well then&#8230;..a staff member needs to do it with them.  And it must be on campus&#8230;that&#8217;s where Jesus lives!  And then if the person is really good at is, listens to the Gaithers and has a God&#8217;s Gym t-shirt then we hire them on staff&#8230;.taking yet another believer out of the real work-place and making an expert out of them.</p>
<p>More and more are saying enough of this and doing their own thing&#8230;outside of existing churches and denominations&#8230;it&#8217;s easier to be missional there.</p>
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