Comments on: The Counterintuitive Church (pt.1) http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/ Let's give the Commission back to the church. Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:47:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Missions Misunderstood » Blog Archive » Missions, Micromanaged http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-16338 Missions Misunderstood » Blog Archive » Missions, Micromanaged Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:05:35 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/#comment-16338 [...] The problem is that most current missiologies were formulated from the “limited divine involvement” perspective. All the mapping, categorizing, and prioritizing was done as the church’s attempt to do what they were “left” by God to do. Even John Piper’s take on missions (and yes, I’m treading lightly here) seems to assume much free-agency on the part of the church when it comes to missions (sorting out which activities and strategies would bring God the most glory). But Jesus’ promise to go with us must be key to our missiology; he often leads His people in very specific ways, and more often than not, those ways are counter-intuitive. [...] [...] The problem is that most current missiologies were formulated from the “limited divine involvement” perspective. All the mapping, categorizing, and prioritizing was done as the church’s attempt to do what they were “left” by God to do. Even John Piper’s take on missions (and yes, I’m treading lightly here) seems to assume much free-agency on the part of the church when it comes to missions (sorting out which activities and strategies would bring God the most glory). But Jesus’ promise to go with us must be key to our missiology; he often leads His people in very specific ways, and more often than not, those ways are counter-intuitive. [...]

]]> By: David Drake http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-3044 David Drake Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:24:48 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/#comment-3044 "What if our methods actually change our message?" That my friend is a powerful question! “What if our methods actually change our message?”

That my friend is a powerful question!

]]> By: Jason http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-2973 Jason Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:43:46 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/#comment-2973 As someone who was not even raised completely in US culture, I still find that I have to constantly stop and ask myself: "Do I believe or do X because it is true, or because I see that it 'works'?" I must confess that more often than not I discover I have been a pragmatist. Sometimes it seems like the right thing to do, when it comes to Biblical living, is exactly the opposite of what would seem natural. Maybe that is where the supernatural aspect to life comes into play! As someone who was not even raised completely in US culture, I still find that I have to constantly stop and ask myself: “Do I believe or do X because it is true, or because I see that it ‘works’?” I must confess that more often than not I discover I have been a pragmatist. Sometimes it seems like the right thing to do, when it comes to Biblical living, is exactly the opposite of what would seem natural. Maybe that is where the supernatural aspect to life comes into play!

]]> By: Jon Reid http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-2969 Jon Reid Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:37:13 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2009/03/24/the-counterintuitive-church-pt1/#comment-2969 This is *so* important, not just for "how we do church" but for how we see the kingdom of God in the first place. I try to teach my children, "The kingdom of God is topsy-turvy, and all the rules are upside-down." This is *so* important, not just for “how we do church” but for how we see the kingdom of God in the first place. I try to teach my children, “The kingdom of God is topsy-turvy, and all the rules are upside-down.”

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