Comments on: The Church That Jesus Planted http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/ Let's give the Commission back to the church. Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:48:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jason Cooper http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/comment-page-1/#comment-2458 Jason Cooper Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:23:08 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/#comment-2458 I think you are absolutely right, and I think it is funny that even Peter struggled with this. I mean he is in the glorified presence of Jesus and prophets and the only thing he can think of is building something. Good thing buildings never distract us from the glory of Jesus! I think you are absolutely right, and I think it is funny that even Peter struggled with this. I mean he is in the glorified presence of Jesus and prophets and the only thing he can think of is building something.

Good thing buildings never distract us from the glory of Jesus!

]]> By: Joe Vereen http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/comment-page-1/#comment-2425 Joe Vereen Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:48:58 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/#comment-2425 Thank you! Thank you!

]]> By: stepchild http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 stepchild Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:32:12 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/#comment-2424 Jason, I guess by, "praise and worship," I meant "a planned time of singing songs read from a book/screen." I see worship in Jesus' church more of a spontaneous response to revelations of His holiness. Sometimes the disciples fell on their faces in fear (Matthew 17:6), gasped with realization (Matthew 14:22-33 ), or rejoicing (John 20:20). As for the sermon- I don't read our modern understanding of a sermon into the New Testament "sermons." I don't think NT sermons were "prepared" and studied speeches. When Jesus spoke to His disciples, I think there was a lot of narrative and a lot of interaction (Luke 9:11) in His teaching. Several times He addressed crowds, but it was usually to tell (unexplained) parables (Mark 4:1-2) or to interact publicly with a specific person (Zaccheus, the Hem-touching Woman, the Paraplegic). So it seems to me that our understanding of "praise and worship" and the "sermon" are also add-ons. Again- not that they're bad! Thanks for interacting with me on this, Jason. Jason,
I guess by, “praise and worship,” I meant “a planned time of singing songs read from a book/screen.” I see worship in Jesus’ church more of a spontaneous response to revelations of His holiness. Sometimes the disciples fell on their faces in fear (Matthew 17:6), gasped with realization (Matthew 14:22-33 ), or rejoicing (John 20:20).

As for the sermon- I don’t read our modern understanding of a sermon into the New Testament “sermons.” I don’t think NT sermons were “prepared” and studied speeches. When Jesus spoke to His disciples, I think there was a lot of narrative and a lot of interaction (Luke 9:11) in His teaching. Several times He addressed crowds, but it was usually to tell (unexplained) parables (Mark 4:1-2) or to interact publicly with a specific person (Zaccheus, the Hem-touching Woman, the Paraplegic).

So it seems to me that our understanding of “praise and worship” and the “sermon” are also add-ons. Again- not that they’re bad!

Thanks for interacting with me on this, Jason.

]]> By: Jason http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/comment-page-1/#comment-2421 Jason Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:22:43 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/11/04/the-church-that-jesus-planted/#comment-2421 Wouldn't you say that Jesus' church had "praise and worship" and an occasional sermon? The other stuff... optional (and not always desirable) add-ons. Wouldn’t you say that Jesus’ church had “praise and worship” and an occasional sermon? The other stuff… optional (and not always desirable) add-ons.

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