Comments on: The Mom-and-Pop Church (Part 1) http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/ Let's give the Commission back to the church. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:31:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Mom and Pop Churches … Musings of a Practical Missiologist : The Edge of the Inside http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2262 Mom and Pop Churches … Musings of a Practical Missiologist : The Edge of the Inside Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:06:16 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/#comment-2262 [...] Goodman is at it again. He began a series on Mom and Pop Churches and has one more to go in the series. Ernest, for me, is a practical missiologist - he has [...] [...] Goodman is at it again. He began a series on Mom and Pop Churches and has one more to go in the series. Ernest, for me, is a practical missiologist – he has [...]

]]> By: Bryan Riley http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2189 Bryan Riley Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:20:21 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/#comment-2189 I like where you are headed and I have to say I've always enjoyed more our local coffee bars - Arsaga's and the like. I will also say I really enjoyed the pubs of England. I like where you are headed and I have to say I’ve always enjoyed more our local coffee bars – Arsaga’s and the like. I will also say I really enjoyed the pubs of England.

]]> By: stepchild http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2186 stepchild Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:14:09 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/#comment-2186 Ted, Thanks for your comment. I've read that competition from Starbucks actually helped a lot of coffee shops as well. But Starbucks' initial expansion through anti-competitive tactics (especially overseas) such as buying out competitor's leases, and prolonged operation of prime locations at a loss, did run a lot of competition to either close their doors or sell out to corporate competitors. It may also be the perspective here in the <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008125785_indiecoffee20.html" rel="nofollow">Pacific Northwest</a>. Consider the (settled) 2006 Class-action suit brought against the giant by small business-owners in Seattle. The suit brought reams of internal documents outlining Starbucks' strategy for hostile expansion and market saturation. Not only did they buy out smaller shops, they also bought out competitors such as Seattle's Best, and Pasqua Coffee. As you mention, the post isn't about Starbucks (I'm a fan of all coffee!), but about churches. In my next post, I'm going to draw parallels between Starbucks and the Mom-and-Pops, and how the rise of megachurches actually has led to the proliferation of smaller, independent ones. Thanks again for your comment! Ted,
Thanks for your comment. I’ve read that competition from Starbucks actually helped a lot of coffee shops as well. But Starbucks’ initial expansion through anti-competitive tactics (especially overseas) such as buying out competitor’s leases, and prolonged operation of prime locations at a loss, did run a lot of competition to either close their doors or sell out to corporate competitors.

It may also be the perspective here in the Pacific Northwest. Consider the (settled) 2006 Class-action suit brought against the giant by small business-owners in Seattle. The suit brought reams of internal documents outlining Starbucks’ strategy for hostile expansion and market saturation. Not only did they buy out smaller shops, they also bought out competitors such as Seattle’s Best, and Pasqua Coffee.

As you mention, the post isn’t about Starbucks (I’m a fan of all coffee!), but about churches. In my next post, I’m going to draw parallels between Starbucks and the Mom-and-Pops, and how the rise of megachurches actually has led to the proliferation of smaller, independent ones.

Thanks again for your comment!

]]> By: Ted http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2185 Ted Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:44:42 +0000 http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2008/10/03/the-mom-and-pop-church-part-1/#comment-2185 "One by one, Mom-and-Pops went out of business." I'm not sure the facts really support this statement. I recently read the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Starbucked-Double-Caffeine-Commerce-Culture/dp/0316014036/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223051758&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Starbucked</a>, about the rise of the Starbucks phenomenon, and according to the author's research the majority of independent coffee shops rode the wave of Starbucks' popularity and were not drowned by it. Unless your coffe shop served truly bad coffee or was poorly managed, the rise of Starbucks was a win-win situation for the independent coffee shop owner. That being said, I realize your post is really about megachurches... “One by one, Mom-and-Pops went out of business.”

I’m not sure the facts really support this statement. I recently read the book Starbucked, about the rise of the Starbucks phenomenon, and according to the author’s research the majority of independent coffee shops rode the wave of Starbucks’ popularity and were not drowned by it. Unless your coffe shop served truly bad coffee or was poorly managed, the rise of Starbucks was a win-win situation for the independent coffee shop owner.

That being said, I realize your post is really about megachurches…

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