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	<title>Comments on: Does Culture Count?</title>
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	<description>Let&#039;s give the Commission back to the church.</description>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.L. Vaughn, &lt;br/&gt;Thanks for your comment. I appreciate what you&#039;ve written here. It&#039;s nice to know that other people are wrestling with these same concepts. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You wrote, &quot;...the Christian culture is unique and exists independently...&quot; and, &quot;the culture of gathering believers -- which exists outside of and independently from world governments, cultures, and standards...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would tend to disagree with the idea that a &quot;Christian culture&quot; can exist independently of the world&#039;s culture. Our interpretations of scripture, of culture, and of the church are heavily influenced by our cultural context (whether we like it, or admit it, or not). The time I&#039;ve spent with believers from other cultures has shown me that their version of the &quot;Christian culture&quot; that you mention looks very different from what I come from.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, a look at church history will show some huge changes to the way Christians view the world, depending largely on their cultural context. I would say that Christians are to be light in whatever culture they are in, and not worry about trying to create and maintain a &quot;Christian culture.&quot; The Church today and in history proves that this is neither possible nor desired this side of heaven.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for asking for my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.L. Vaughn, <br />Thanks for your comment. I appreciate what you&#8217;ve written here. It&#8217;s nice to know that other people are wrestling with these same concepts. </p>
<p>You wrote, &#8220;&#8230;the Christian culture is unique and exists independently&#8230;&#8221; and, &#8220;the culture of gathering believers &#8212; which exists outside of and independently from world governments, cultures, and standards&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I would tend to disagree with the idea that a &#8220;Christian culture&#8221; can exist independently of the world&#8217;s culture. Our interpretations of scripture, of culture, and of the church are heavily influenced by our cultural context (whether we like it, or admit it, or not). The time I&#8217;ve spent with believers from other cultures has shown me that their version of the &#8220;Christian culture&#8221; that you mention looks very different from what I come from.  </p>
<p>Also, a look at church history will show some huge changes to the way Christians view the world, depending largely on their cultural context. I would say that Christians are to be light in whatever culture they are in, and not worry about trying to create and maintain a &#8220;Christian culture.&#8221; The Church today and in history proves that this is neither possible nor desired this side of heaven.</p>
<p>Thanks for asking for my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: R. L. Vaughn</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>R. L. Vaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be appreciative if you&#039;d comment on the following that I wrote awhile back. I&#039;d like to get a &#039;third person&#039; perspective.&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&quot;Christian culture is created in Christ and prescribed in the New Testament. Though times change and cultures differ, the Christian culture is unique and exists independently. The way that Christians and churches relate to culture in any place and time may change according to those times and places. But the culture of gathering believers -- which exists outside of and independently from world governments, cultures, and standards -- is universal and permanent, having neither command to change nor necessity to conform.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be appreciative if you&#8217;d comment on the following that I wrote awhile back. I&#8217;d like to get a &#8216;third person&#8217; perspective.</p>
<p>&#8220;Christian culture is created in Christ and prescribed in the New Testament. Though times change and cultures differ, the Christian culture is unique and exists independently. The way that Christians and churches relate to culture in any place and time may change according to those times and places. But the culture of gathering believers &#8212; which exists outside of and independently from world governments, cultures, and standards &#8212; is universal and permanent, having neither command to change nor necessity to conform.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan riley</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i was disappointed to see it wasn&#039;t lent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i was disappointed to see it wasn&#8217;t lent.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchman</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must not be lent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must not be lent.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe STAS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe STAS?</p>
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		<title>By: Strider</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Strider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Rogers thinks he might have given up blogging for lent.  Well, hey it was that or alcohol right?  So, We will know if David is right come Monday I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Rogers thinks he might have given up blogging for lent.  Well, hey it was that or alcohol right?  So, We will know if David is right come Monday I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan riley</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the deal?  Where has he gone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the deal?  Where has he gone?</p>
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		<title>By: Thorne</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the church&#039;s issue today is trying to maintain our &quot;truth&quot; content- rather that the traditional church, with the goal of being &quot;counter-cultural&quot; has actually created its own &quot;church culture&quot; where we are inward focused. We have our own language, books, music, movies, etc. And these things are not &quot;counter-culture&quot; and have no intrinsic spiritual content, but rather are simply matters of preference for our &quot;Christian culture&quot;. What we need are churches  who take away all the reasons non-Christians have come to hate- not church itself- but Christian church culture. I&#039;m a part of a church for people who hate going to church. We take away all the &quot;churchy&quot; culture- all the reasons why non-Christians don&#039;t want to go to church. The church has to do this or we&#039;re going to lose a lot of ground.&lt;br/&gt;churchtogether.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the church&#8217;s issue today is trying to maintain our &#8220;truth&#8221; content- rather that the traditional church, with the goal of being &#8220;counter-cultural&#8221; has actually created its own &#8220;church culture&#8221; where we are inward focused. We have our own language, books, music, movies, etc. And these things are not &#8220;counter-culture&#8221; and have no intrinsic spiritual content, but rather are simply matters of preference for our &#8220;Christian culture&#8221;. What we need are churches  who take away all the reasons non-Christians have come to hate- not church itself- but Christian church culture. I&#8217;m a part of a church for people who hate going to church. We take away all the &#8220;churchy&#8221; culture- all the reasons why non-Christians don&#8217;t want to go to church. The church has to do this or we&#8217;re going to lose a lot of ground.<br />churchtogether.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Watchman</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beginning to think maybe the rapture has taken place, with stepchild being taken, and the rest of us being left behind.  should have listened to tim lahaye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think maybe the rapture has taken place, with stepchild being taken, and the rest of us being left behind.  should have listened to tim lahaye.</p>
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		<title>By: knnuki</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2007/02/02/does-culture-count/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>knnuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and all my friends, we&#039;re not stopping til you come up with a new post, Stepchild.  Starting now.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild!  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(C&#039;mon everyone, help me out)  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and all my friends, we&#8217;re not stopping til you come up with a new post, Stepchild.  Starting now.  </p>
<p>We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild!  </p>
<p>(C&#8217;mon everyone, help me out)  </p>
<p>We Want Stepchild!  We Want Stepchild&#8230;</p>
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