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		<title>By: A 10-40 Window Missionary</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>A 10-40 Window Missionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, should proof-read before submitting...the last line should have said hampered...</description>
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		<title>By: A 10-40 Window Missionary</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>A 10-40 Window Missionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, Debbie and Anon...&lt;br /&gt;Yes, questions, appropriately asked should receive appropriate answers. But, too often, even truly innocent questions are misconstrued by insecure or incompetent leaders. And, yes, I have seen incompetent leaders on the field. Fortunately, they do not last long, but their legacies hinged the work for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, Debbie and Anon&#8230;<br />Yes, questions, appropriately asked should receive appropriate answers. But, too often, even truly innocent questions are misconstrued by insecure or incompetent leaders. And, yes, I have seen incompetent leaders on the field. Fortunately, they do not last long, but their legacies hinged the work for years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all commenting,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Questioning is appropriate if the questions are asked in an appropriate and respectful tone.  I have been in statside conference sessions where the tone  and attitude of the missionary asking the question of senior leadership was anything but respectful.  In fact, many attempted to use clever wording as a way to disguise a personal attack.  I do not believe this to be honoring to our Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with Debbie that we should not be afraid to ask questions and with Stepchild that leadership needs feedback.  However, we, the rank and file, also need the wisdom of knowing when it is time just to keep silent.</description>
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<p>Questioning is appropriate if the questions are asked in an appropriate and respectful tone.  I have been in statside conference sessions where the tone  and attitude of the missionary asking the question of senior leadership was anything but respectful.  In fact, many attempted to use clever wording as a way to disguise a personal attack.  I do not believe this to be honoring to our Lord.</p>
<p>I agree with Debbie that we should not be afraid to ask questions and with Stepchild that leadership needs feedback.  However, we, the rank and file, also need the wisdom of knowing when it is time just to keep silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that questioning is helpful and healthy... that includes questioning leaders. Leaders are human and sometimes they are so far removed from the situation that what looks good on paper doesn&#039;t transfer well when it comes to putting it into reality. We should never be afraid or so trusting that we do not question. The day we cannot question things is the day we might as well check our brains at the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that questioning is helpful and healthy&#8230; that includes questioning leaders. Leaders are human and sometimes they are so far removed from the situation that what looks good on paper doesn&#8217;t transfer well when it comes to putting it into reality. We should never be afraid or so trusting that we do not question. The day we cannot question things is the day we might as well check our brains at the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have not offended me, so please don&#039;t worry about that. My concern is more with the tone and trend of blogs that give a narrow view without providing readers with the bigger, worldwide picture. &lt;br /&gt;As Ken asked in another string, if you were president, how would you determine how to best shape the strategy of the IMB. There are X number of workers and X number of dollars available in a world of people who don&#039;t know Jesus. How would you decide where those resources go? &lt;br /&gt;Also, you ask these questions on your blog, but have you asked Dr Rankin? Your RL? Other leadership? When you are on stateside assignment, do you seek to sit down with those in Richmond to gain greater insight? Most likely I am simply unaware of you taking those opportunities. &lt;br /&gt;I seriously doubt anyone assumes that lack of comment implies agreement. Posing questions is one thing; posing speculations about motives is another.&lt;br /&gt;Please do not read a negative or spiteful tone in these comments as that is not my intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have not offended me, so please don&#8217;t worry about that. My concern is more with the tone and trend of blogs that give a narrow view without providing readers with the bigger, worldwide picture. <br />As Ken asked in another string, if you were president, how would you determine how to best shape the strategy of the IMB. There are X number of workers and X number of dollars available in a world of people who don&#8217;t know Jesus. How would you decide where those resources go? <br />Also, you ask these questions on your blog, but have you asked Dr Rankin? Your RL? Other leadership? When you are on stateside assignment, do you seek to sit down with those in Richmond to gain greater insight? Most likely I am simply unaware of you taking those opportunities. <br />I seriously doubt anyone assumes that lack of comment implies agreement. Posing questions is one thing; posing speculations about motives is another.<br />Please do not read a negative or spiteful tone in these comments as that is not my intent.</p>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,&lt;br /&gt;I did not mean to offend you. I&#039;m sorry if my words seemed harsh or unfair. My intention with this post was to question the idea of &quot;reaching people&quot; and the numbers our organization has selected as guiding and strategic. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whoever is behind the Board&#039;s greater strategy and missiology has not, to my knowledge, shared with our personnel (or with the general public) any rationale whatsoever for the things we&#039;re discussing here. Until they do, I will voice my questions (meaning no disrespect of the organization) and concerns. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I trust IMB leadership. I also think that obedience and stewardship require that we constantly evaluate who we are and what we are doing. Any leaders, no matter how godly, need feedback in order to be able to do this. Through this blog, I receive such feedback from others, and offer it to anyone who&#039;s interested. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I didn&#039;t ask questions, everyone would assume that all of us were in total agreement with the current missiology. By offering suggestions and possible solutions, I seek to encourage my colleagues who struggle as I do with being a missionary.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s a difference between &quot;suspicion&quot; and &quot;speculation.&quot; I&#039;m not in the least bit suspicious of IMB leaders and strategists, but without hearing directly from them in matters of missiology and strategy, I can only speculate as to their motivations, reasons, and thought processes. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I realize that this comment probably won&#039;t make you feel any better about what I&#039;ve written or about me as a person. For that, I am sorry. Perhaps you would be happy to learn that the terrific discussion (terrific to me) in the comments section of my recent post &quot;Messed Up Missiology&quot; involved extensive participation from those who you refer to as &quot;IMB leadership.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thankfully, it would seem that not everyone in the organization feels dismissed by my posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,<br />I did not mean to offend you. I&#8217;m sorry if my words seemed harsh or unfair. My intention with this post was to question the idea of &#8220;reaching people&#8221; and the numbers our organization has selected as guiding and strategic. </p>
<p>Whoever is behind the Board&#8217;s greater strategy and missiology has not, to my knowledge, shared with our personnel (or with the general public) any rationale whatsoever for the things we&#8217;re discussing here. Until they do, I will voice my questions (meaning no disrespect of the organization) and concerns. </p>
<p>I trust IMB leadership. I also think that obedience and stewardship require that we constantly evaluate who we are and what we are doing. Any leaders, no matter how godly, need feedback in order to be able to do this. Through this blog, I receive such feedback from others, and offer it to anyone who&#8217;s interested. </p>
<p>If I didn&#8217;t ask questions, everyone would assume that all of us were in total agreement with the current missiology. By offering suggestions and possible solutions, I seek to encourage my colleagues who struggle as I do with being a missionary.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;suspicion&#8221; and &#8220;speculation.&#8221; I&#8217;m not in the least bit suspicious of IMB leaders and strategists, but without hearing directly from them in matters of missiology and strategy, I can only speculate as to their motivations, reasons, and thought processes. </p>
<p>I realize that this comment probably won&#8217;t make you feel any better about what I&#8217;ve written or about me as a person. For that, I am sorry. Perhaps you would be happy to learn that the terrific discussion (terrific to me) in the comments section of my recent post &#8220;Messed Up Missiology&#8221; involved extensive participation from those who you refer to as &#8220;IMB leadership.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thankfully, it would seem that not everyone in the organization feels dismissed by my posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I was not trying to &quot;play a card&quot; as you put it, and I think that is an unfair comment for you to make. You stated that the numbers were picked by IMB marketers, and I was pointing out that your statement is not correct. In many postings, you seem to be dismissive of the organization to which you have voluntarily aligned yourself, and I do not understand why. Yes, there are things that the IMB could/should do in different ways. I do not understand, however, how it is edifying or helpful to express such suspicion of your leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I was not trying to &#8220;play a card&#8221; as you put it, and I think that is an unfair comment for you to make. You stated that the numbers were picked by IMB marketers, and I was pointing out that your statement is not correct. In many postings, you seem to be dismissive of the organization to which you have voluntarily aligned yourself, and I do not understand why. Yes, there are things that the IMB could/should do in different ways. I do not understand, however, how it is edifying or helpful to express such suspicion of your leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s a difference between coming up with a strategy and communicating it. I believe that the team of people you refer to, Spirit-led though they may be, also take into consideration what is often referred to as &quot;denominational buy-in.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, the Board will not (and, in my opinion, should not) implement a strategy that is not supported by the majority of Southern Baptists (those who give so generously.) Whatever the &quot;IMB staff, field leadership, trustees, and the Lord&quot; come up with, they&#039;ve got to &quot;sell&quot; it to the people in the pews.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, marketing isn&#039;t always a bad word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this case, I think that the IMB marketers (would you be more comfortable with &quot;publicists?&quot;) cannibalized our own offerings. In many cases, the only missiology Southern Baptists ever get is what IMB advertising gives them. If our ads tell people that we&#039;ve almost &quot;finished the task,&quot; I can see how it would get people excited about supporting missions. Unfortunately, we&#039;ve also (perhaps inadvertently) told our constituents that work in &quot;reached&quot; areas, or among smaller unreached groups is less important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wish the strategists talked more about the &quot;whys&quot; behind what we do. Until they take the opportunity to educate our people about missiological principles, our strategies will be nothing more than marketing campaigns (and yes, here, I&#039;ve used the word in a negative sense).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way, were you trying to play the &quot;The-LORD-came-up-with-our-strategy-so-don&#039;t-you-question-it&quot; card in your comment? It kind of seemed like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,<br />There&#8217;s a difference between coming up with a strategy and communicating it. I believe that the team of people you refer to, Spirit-led though they may be, also take into consideration what is often referred to as &#8220;denominational buy-in.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, the Board will not (and, in my opinion, should not) implement a strategy that is not supported by the majority of Southern Baptists (those who give so generously.) Whatever the &#8220;IMB staff, field leadership, trustees, and the Lord&#8221; come up with, they&#8217;ve got to &#8220;sell&#8221; it to the people in the pews.</p>
<p>See, marketing isn&#8217;t always a bad word.</p>
<p>In this case, I think that the IMB marketers (would you be more comfortable with &#8220;publicists?&#8221;) cannibalized our own offerings. In many cases, the only missiology Southern Baptists ever get is what IMB advertising gives them. If our ads tell people that we&#8217;ve almost &#8220;finished the task,&#8221; I can see how it would get people excited about supporting missions. Unfortunately, we&#8217;ve also (perhaps inadvertently) told our constituents that work in &#8220;reached&#8221; areas, or among smaller unreached groups is less important.</p>
<p>I wish the strategists talked more about the &#8220;whys&#8221; behind what we do. Until they take the opportunity to educate our people about missiological principles, our strategies will be nothing more than marketing campaigns (and yes, here, I&#8217;ve used the word in a negative sense).</p>
<p>By the way, were you trying to play the &#8220;The-LORD-came-up-with-our-strategy-so-don&#8217;t-you-question-it&#8221; card in your comment? It kind of seemed like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;marketers&quot; - the current strategy was determined by IMB staff, field leadership, and trustees, under the leadership of the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;marketers&#8221; &#8211; the current strategy was determined by IMB staff, field leadership, and trustees, under the leadership of the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Sorrell</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/12/10/reached/comment-page-1/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Sorrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>insouthasia,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don&#039;t believe everything you read.  That particular church began engaging some smaller churches in our region and for some reason has pulled out of that strategy.  I&#039;m not sure where that one is going yet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;stepchild,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again this is purely conjecture on my part, but after the big groups are engaged I think you will see us turn to other smaller unengaged groups first.  Then I think regions around the world will re-enter groups they thought were moving forward but have stalled.  Also, we never know what a change in leadership will do to our current strategies.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t believe everything you read.  That particular church began engaging some smaller churches in our region and for some reason has pulled out of that strategy.  I&#8217;m not sure where that one is going yet.</p>
<p>stepchild,</p>
<p>Again this is purely conjecture on my part, but after the big groups are engaged I think you will see us turn to other smaller unengaged groups first.  Then I think regions around the world will re-enter groups they thought were moving forward but have stalled.  Also, we never know what a change in leadership will do to our current strategies.</p>
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