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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/07/01/vietnamese-takeout/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great story. Waiting for more. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://film-editing-schools2.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#187;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great story. Waiting for more. <a HREF="http://film-editing-schools2.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">&raquo;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://missionsmisunderstood.com/2006/07/01/vietnamese-takeout/comment-page-1/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best regards, nice info</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stepchild,&lt;br/&gt;I have been upset and frustrated with the US church for many years.  My comment is a reflection of where I am in my walk with the Lord.  I have seen churches and Christians trying to compete with each other.  I do understand your frustration with churches.  I have yet to find one person in the church who is really interested in missions.  We were only overseas for 2 years.  When we came back, I quickly realized that the church only wanted the vaguest of explanations of what we did, and they only wanted to hear it once.  I guess if they are that interested in missions, they end up on the field as one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stepchild,<br />I have been upset and frustrated with the US church for many years.  My comment is a reflection of where I am in my walk with the Lord.  I have seen churches and Christians trying to compete with each other.  I do understand your frustration with churches.  I have yet to find one person in the church who is really interested in missions.  We were only overseas for 2 years.  When we came back, I quickly realized that the church only wanted the vaguest of explanations of what we did, and they only wanted to hear it once.  I guess if they are that interested in missions, they end up on the field as one.</p>
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		<title>By: stepchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>stepchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, &lt;br/&gt;Thanks for your comment. I&#039;ve struggled for a while about what I should be writing on my blog. The purpose of this whole thing is for me to put into words the questions that I have and conclusions I&#039;ve come to about missions. I don&#039;t write too much about what my daily life looks like, and I&#039;m deliberately vague about my ministry. Many of my coworkers are very good about sharing the highs and lows of their week on their blogs. Here, I prefer to discuss missions in general, and how I (and perhaps others) may have misunderstood missions. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sticking to the generalities has, unfortunately, made for a negative tone in several of my posts. Good people like yourself feel the need to remind me that I am in no position to judge others, and that I should be more concerned about myself. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So what then? Should I preface everything I write with a disclaimer stating my own guilt? Maybe. In some ways, I feel like a pastor preparing for his next sermon. Who am I to say what I&#039;m about to say?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I wrote that &quot;missionaries compete...,&quot; I wasn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;accusing&lt;/i&gt; people of competition. I was saying that because churches back home are distracted from us, we are consistantly trying to get their attention and remind them to remember and pray for us. I&#039;m not sure that would sound any better, or less piously judgemental to you, but I wanted to clarify.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please stick around and read my newest post, entitled &quot;Thank You.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, <br />Thanks for your comment. I&#8217;ve struggled for a while about what I should be writing on my blog. The purpose of this whole thing is for me to put into words the questions that I have and conclusions I&#8217;ve come to about missions. I don&#8217;t write too much about what my daily life looks like, and I&#8217;m deliberately vague about my ministry. Many of my coworkers are very good about sharing the highs and lows of their week on their blogs. Here, I prefer to discuss missions in general, and how I (and perhaps others) may have misunderstood missions. </p>
<p>Sticking to the generalities has, unfortunately, made for a negative tone in several of my posts. Good people like yourself feel the need to remind me that I am in no position to judge others, and that I should be more concerned about myself. </p>
<p>So what then? Should I preface everything I write with a disclaimer stating my own guilt? Maybe. In some ways, I feel like a pastor preparing for his next sermon. Who am I to say what I&#8217;m about to say?</p>
<p>When I wrote that &#8220;missionaries compete&#8230;,&#8221; I wasn&#8217;t <i>accusing</i> people of competition. I was saying that because churches back home are distracted from us, we are consistantly trying to get their attention and remind them to remember and pray for us. I&#8217;m not sure that would sound any better, or less piously judgemental to you, but I wanted to clarify.</p>
<p>Please stick around and read my newest post, entitled &#8220;Thank You.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain.  I have felt your pain.  Here and &quot;over there.&quot;  Before I went over there, my problem was with Ms (Members- church).  When I was over there, my problems were with Ms (Missionaries).  Now that I am back over here as a prison chaplain, my problems are with Ms (inMates, especially the Christian ones).  I&#039;m afraid that Christ would say that my biggest problem is with &quot;I.&quot;  Anybody have a splinter they need removed from their eye?  As right as you are, I am more concerned about myself than the actions and motives of others.  Concerning the competition between Christians and churches, I am continually haunted by my pastoral ministries professor&#039;s statement, &quot;Lighthouses don&#039;t compete.&quot;  I shudder to think what Christ must think of our antics.  Do you think his message for us would be any different than his message to the scribes and pharisees?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain.  I have felt your pain.  Here and &#8220;over there.&#8221;  Before I went over there, my problem was with Ms (Members- church).  When I was over there, my problems were with Ms (Missionaries).  Now that I am back over here as a prison chaplain, my problems are with Ms (inMates, especially the Christian ones).  I&#8217;m afraid that Christ would say that my biggest problem is with &#8220;I.&#8221;  Anybody have a splinter they need removed from their eye?  As right as you are, I am more concerned about myself than the actions and motives of others.  Concerning the competition between Christians and churches, I am continually haunted by my pastoral ministries professor&#8217;s statement, &#8220;Lighthouses don&#8217;t compete.&#8221;  I shudder to think what Christ must think of our antics.  Do you think his message for us would be any different than his message to the scribes and pharisees?</p>
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		<title>By: A 10-40 Window Missionary</title>
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		<dc:creator>A 10-40 Window Missionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stepchild,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your final paragraph asks the same question I asked while attending  Strategy Coordinators training. My comment was: &quot;So this means we are in competition with both those independent missionaries who intenerate for two years before going to the field, trying to get churches to support them, and all of the new generation of IMB Strategy Coordinators who are trying to get churches to support them.&quot; The response was NO, NEVER, we are NOT in competition...It was laughable then, and even more-so now when we are being asked to find at least 5 churches with which we can have a &quot;very close&quot; relationship. Bring people to your country, have a web-site, write these 5 (at a minimum) churches, put people on your electronic mailing list...no, we are not in any sort of competition.</description>
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<p>Your final paragraph asks the same question I asked while attending  Strategy Coordinators training. My comment was: &#8220;So this means we are in competition with both those independent missionaries who intenerate for two years before going to the field, trying to get churches to support them, and all of the new generation of IMB Strategy Coordinators who are trying to get churches to support them.&#8221; The response was NO, NEVER, we are NOT in competition&#8230;It was laughable then, and even more-so now when we are being asked to find at least 5 churches with which we can have a &#8220;very close&#8221; relationship. Bring people to your country, have a web-site, write these 5 (at a minimum) churches, put people on your electronic mailing list&#8230;no, we are not in any sort of competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is heavy!  I think I need to read more before I start to make comments, but you need to trust the Lord.  I know it&#039;s hard! :) I just went home and my church (Saddleback, yes THE Saddleback) told me they are not going to send missionaries out anymore so find a new sending agency/church!  How does THAT strike you?  Crazy huh?  All I can do is laugh!  God will make a way!  He is awesome and He sees all the crazy stuff that goes on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is heavy!  I think I need to read more before I start to make comments, but you need to trust the Lord.  I know it&#8217;s hard! <img src='http://missionsmisunderstood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I just went home and my church (Saddleback, yes THE Saddleback) told me they are not going to send missionaries out anymore so find a new sending agency/church!  How does THAT strike you?  Crazy huh?  All I can do is laugh!  God will make a way!  He is awesome and He sees all the crazy stuff that goes on!</p>
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		<title>By: cafeaddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>cafeaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, this one had some heat on it!  i feel your pain, stepchild, i really do.  anyone who has served overseas in a long term capacity knows and identifies with many of the things you have said.  i struggle with feeling &quot;ungotten&quot;.  i get angry when a church spends 15 million on a new family life center and only gives 35,000 to lottie moon.  i get tired of trying to justify myself in comparsion with those that are &quot;really suffering&quot; for the lord.  i know where you are coming from.  it is an ongoing frustration...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;that said, i know for me that these feelings can lead to what i call missionary gnosticism.  definition:  we think we get it and no one else does.  we have seen the world, experienced it, engaged it and that has given us the right to critique it.  know what i mean?  it is pride dressed up in a very martyred missionary costume.  when i get surly and want to start pointing my prophetic finger at everyone, i just think about &quot;the others&quot; (i just finished season one of lost so excuse the reference)  they consist of those who could careless about new mission trends or sbc politics.  they give to missions because they want people to know god. i am talking about folks like those that attend my home church, they give to me monthly not because they have a overwhelming burden for my people group but because they care about me.  i am talking about mr and mrs normal, everyday baptist.  they are many but we rarely hear their voice.  they are quiet, without agendas and faithful givers.  these are the people i see myself representing.  these are the ones that make me believe that i can stay here in their name and on their dollar.  the rest, the &quot;evil others&quot; can just keeping fighting about women in ministry, or the alcohol issue or whether or not we should homeschool.  maybe that will keep them busy enough that they will leave us alone.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;we are veterans of a war.  no question.  but honestly, if we are seeking the applause of those that sent us, we have the wrong audience and that may be our biggest problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, this one had some heat on it!  i feel your pain, stepchild, i really do.  anyone who has served overseas in a long term capacity knows and identifies with many of the things you have said.  i struggle with feeling &#8220;ungotten&#8221;.  i get angry when a church spends 15 million on a new family life center and only gives 35,000 to lottie moon.  i get tired of trying to justify myself in comparsion with those that are &#8220;really suffering&#8221; for the lord.  i know where you are coming from.  it is an ongoing frustration&#8230;</p>
<p>that said, i know for me that these feelings can lead to what i call missionary gnosticism.  definition:  we think we get it and no one else does.  we have seen the world, experienced it, engaged it and that has given us the right to critique it.  know what i mean?  it is pride dressed up in a very martyred missionary costume.  when i get surly and want to start pointing my prophetic finger at everyone, i just think about &#8220;the others&#8221; (i just finished season one of lost so excuse the reference)  they consist of those who could careless about new mission trends or sbc politics.  they give to missions because they want people to know god. i am talking about folks like those that attend my home church, they give to me monthly not because they have a overwhelming burden for my people group but because they care about me.  i am talking about mr and mrs normal, everyday baptist.  they are many but we rarely hear their voice.  they are quiet, without agendas and faithful givers.  these are the people i see myself representing.  these are the ones that make me believe that i can stay here in their name and on their dollar.  the rest, the &#8220;evil others&#8221; can just keeping fighting about women in ministry, or the alcohol issue or whether or not we should homeschool.  maybe that will keep them busy enough that they will leave us alone.  </p>
<p>we are veterans of a war.  no question.  but honestly, if we are seeking the applause of those that sent us, we have the wrong audience and that may be our biggest problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many years you been on the field, dude?</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, just get over it,Ernest, and get out there and do the job we are PAYING you to do!  Just kidding. Seriously, I&#039;d go independent if I were you. Raising support is difficult, but relationships made are real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, just get over it,Ernest, and get out there and do the job we are PAYING you to do!  Just kidding. Seriously, I&#8217;d go independent if I were you. Raising support is difficult, but relationships made are real.</p>
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